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Vism. followers wrongly claiming you can hear sounds in the 4 jhanas, citing parajika 4 Moggallana

 

Re: Ajahn Brahmavamso's Dark Jhana

Post by frank k » 

bksubhuti wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:53 am...
If you ask..
Parajika 4 Mula explains ven Mahamoggalana's jhana and hearing elephants bathing in the river
commentary says it was 4th jhana during the first 2 weeks. He was slower than average but it was worth it.
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Moggallana was not in 4th jhana, parajika 4 says, imperturbable (anenja) samādhi.
Which usually means the arupa attainments, or the imperturbable version of 4th jhana that can exercise supernormal powers.
You can rule out 4th jhana then, since if someone were exercising supernormal powers, such as moggallana visiting deva realms and conversing with his physical body, it would be expected he could sense his own body and hear sounds.

So parajika 4's 'anenia samadhi' must be referring to arupa formless attainments, and moggallana's being impure because he could quickly switch between rupa and arupa and hear sounds.

detailed article on the subject of hearing in 4 jhanas:
http://lucid24.org/sted/8aam/8samadhi/sound/index.html#tophead

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