MN 44: CÅ«įø·avedallasutta—Bhikkhu Sujato Pubbe kho, Ävuso visÄkha, vitakketvÄ vicÄretvÄ pacchÄ vÄcaį¹ bhindati, tasmÄ vitakkavicÄrÄ vacÄ«saį¹
khÄro. First you place the mind and keep it connected, then you break into speech. His footnote to this: That’s why placing the mind and keeping it connected are verbal processes. Vitakka and vicÄra have a more basic sense in ordinary states of mind (“thought” and “exploring”) and a more refined sense in the elevated consciousness of jhÄna (“placing the mind” and “keeping it connected”). They act as a condition for breaking into speech, so any hint of such movement, no matter how subtle, must be abandoned. vitakka relation to speech (vÄcÄ) and verbal process (vacÄ«-sankhÄra) Sujato MN 117 excerpt “SaƱƱÄvedayitanirodhaį¹ samÄpajjantassa kho, Ävuso visÄkha, bhikkhuno paį¹hamaį¹ nirujjhati vacÄ«saį¹
khÄro, tato kÄyasaį¹
khÄro, tato cittasaį¹
khÄro”ti. “The verbal process ceases first, then physical, then mental.” His footnote says: The verbal process (vacÄ«-saį¹
khÄ
So why are references to MN 117 missing in Bhikkhu AnÄlayo's EBMS? February 17, 2019 MN 117 definition of vitakka comes from abhidhamma, not EBT February 14, 2019 MN 117 understanding Survivorship bias, bandwagon effect, herd mentality February 14, 2019 MN 117 samma saį¹
kappo = vitakka (of first jhana) January 02, 2019 B. Sujato does address MN 117 in his blog article on V&V February 23, 2019 MN 117 Did you know an arahant is not a 'noble disciple'? May 06, 2024 MN 117 Sujato's fraudulent/criminal interpretation of 'vitakka' is based on this sutta October 12, 2024 You can see I've been blowing the whistle on Sujato and Analayo for over 5 years at this point.