Monday, October 31, 2022

Dilgo Khyentse on Malicious Criticism of Dharma Traditions

 

Dilgo Khyentse on Malicious Criticism of Dharma Traditions

Malicious criticism of other traditions of dharma, in particular, is a major cause of the dharma as a whole declining and being corrupted. View all traditions and views as non-contradictory, and as true expressions of the Buddha’s teachings.

– Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche

from the book "The Heart of Compassion: The Thirty-seven Verses on the Practice of a Bodhisattva"


frankk:


level 1

Views like the one in the OP are the reason for the decline of True Dharma.

The lack of critical thinking, the lack of discernment, the gullible following gurus with wrong view are the cause.




It's worth noting that the Rinpoche reconfirmed Ösel Tendzin as Trungpa's successor, leading to one of the most disastrous sex scandals in US Buddhist history (Tendzin knowingly infected his students with AIDS, by having sex with them, including one alleged rape.) Perhaps a more critical, less simplistic approach to the views of Tendzin might have helped Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche to prevent that.

Again, I say this without malice or other ill will.


Wednesday, October 26, 2022

walking meditation: should I do (some weirdly specific thing like slow zombie walking)?

 

Re: Walking meditation

Post by frank k » 

Mangaka wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:42 pmHello everybody,
does anyone here know, what is the proper way for practice of walking meditation? Should one be aware of steps itself (like contact of the feet with floor) or it's right to focus on meditation object like breath, mettā or foulness of the body? Or are both methods right?
see AN 3.16
https://lucid24.org/an/an03/an03-v01/index.html#s16

The Buddha says do sitting or walking meditation, all the time.
He doesn't tell you how to allocate how much to do each, so it's an individual choice.
Other suttas mention all four postures (standing, lying down).
So it's not about the posture, or whether you use a chair to sit.
It's the same set of meditation techniques in any posture.
All the weirdly specific walking meditation techniques they teach in modern times, didn't come from the Buddha.

As long as what they teach is in accordance with Dhamma, then nothing wrong with trying it out and seeing if it helps you.
But don't think there's something special you need to do for 'walking meditation'.


Tuesday, October 25, 2022

MN 19 What would happen to the cowherd following Ajahn Brahm's redefinition of jhāna?


The Buddha's similes are often remarkably apt.

Besides giving us very rich detail about what those states may feel like experientially,

the similes often tells us what those states are NOT.

For example, if you have a wrong definition and understanding of sati, "mindfulness",

the simile will make the error very clear.

In AN 7.67, "mindfulness" is the wise gatekeeper that allows friends to enter the fortress and enemies removed.

If "mindfulness" was a non judgmental, choiceless awareness gatekeeper who only observed without reacting, he would just let anyone waltz through the gate. That is not a wise gate keeper. So clearly that can not be a correct definition of "mindfulness" (sati). 


Similarly, MN 19 gives us a great first jhāna simile, of a cowherd monitoring a herd of cows. 

Prior to first jhāna, the cowherd is kept busy, poking the cows, keeping them in the proper areas and keeping them from wandering into forbidden areas. 

This represents right effort restraining actions and pulling them in line with right view and right resolves. 

When right resolves are qualified for first jhāna, the Buddha then describes the cowherd with this simile: 



seyyathāpi, bhikkhave,
“Just as (in the)
gimhānaṃ pacchime māse
hot-season, (in the) last month,
sabba-sassesu gāmanta-sambhatesu
(when) all-crops (into the) village-(they've been)-stored-up,
gopālako gāvo rakkheyya,
a cowherd {would look after} (his) cows:
tassa rukkha-mūla-gatassa vā
While resting under the shade of a tree or
abbhokāsa-gatassa vā
out in the open,
🐘 sati-karaṇīyam-eva hoti — ‘etā VAR gāvo’ti.
🐘 he simply keeps himself remembering ‘those cows.’
evamevaṃ kho, bhikkhave,
In the same way,
🐘 sati-karaṇīyam-eva ahosi — ‘ete dhammā’ti.
🐘 I simply kept myself remembering ‘those Dhammas.’
“āraddhaṃ kho pana me, bhikkhave,
“aroused indeed in me, monks
(7sb → 3. 🏹) vīriyaṃ ahosi a-sallīnaṃ,
(7sb → 3. 🏹), vigor was un-flagging,
(7sb → 1. 🐘) upaṭṭhitā sati a-sam-muṭṭhā,
(7sb → 1. 🐘) established remembering [of which ☸Dhamma to do], not-forgetful,
(7sb → 5. 🌊) passaddho kāyo a-sāraddho,
(7sb → 5. 🌊) Pacified body, un-aroused,
(7sb → 6. 🌄) samāhitaṃ cittaṃ ek’aggaṃ.
(7sb → 6. 🌄) Undistractability-and-lucidity (of) mind (with) singular-preoccupation.

(STED 1st Jhāna)

🚫💑 vivicc’eva kāmehi
🚫💑 Quite-withdrawn (from) sensuality,
🚫😠 vivicca a-kusalehi dhammehi
🚫😠 withdrawn (from) un-skillful Dhamma [teachings & qualities],
(V&V💭) sa-vitakkaṃ sa-vicāraṃ
(V&V💭) With-directed-thought, with-evaluation,
😁🙂 viveka-jaṃ pīti-sukhaṃ
😁🙂 withdrawal-born rapture-&-pleasure,
🌘 paṭhamaṃ jhānaṃ upasampajja viharati.
🌘 first Jhāna (he) enters, dwells.

(STED 2nd Jhāna)... 4th jhāna


That state involving the 7 awakening factors immediately before first jhāna, is describing what's occuring WHILE one is in first jhāna. MN 125 makes this even more explicit by removing the standard first jhāna formula, and adding a second passage on satipaṭṭhāna.

The cowherd lucidly discerning "those cows" is also describing first jhāna.



Now lets pretend Ajahn Brahm's redefinition of jhāna was the same as the Buddha's jhāna

What would the cowherd be doing? 

He'd be resting under the shade of the tree, thinking: "those cows" (vitakka), referring to the cows serenely chewing on grass and not wandering around.  

But according to Brahm that can't be vitakka (verbal thinking) of first jhāna, since one can not "think" in first jhāna 

That's just access concentration (a concept the Buddha never uses).

Then the cowherd, with the pīti and sukha (physical and mental pleasure) of access concentration, notices the cow kasina counterpart image arise (the Buddha never talked about jhāna with kasinas), or alternatively, the beautiful breath nimitta, a visual bright white vision. 

As the white luminosity gets brighter and bigger, the cowherd absorbs into the nimitta, being completely absorbed in mental bliss. The body senses are shut off, the cowherd can't see, can't hear, can't think. The cowherd could be here in a disembodied frozen state of bliss for hours on end until the cows come home, and the cowherd wouldn't know it. He's just frozen in bliss.


(remember, we're hypothetically assuming Ajahn Brahm's redefinition of jhāna is genuine Buddha's jhāna)

To indicate this is genuine jhāna, the Buddha in the jhāna standard formula helpfully redefines the terms 'body' as "body of mind only factors excluding the body', and vitakka, which means verbal thinking everywhere else in the hundreds of occurrences in the suttas, yet in jhāna, vitakka inexplicably means 'not able to think, mind is frozen in place.'

Does that seem likely to you? That the Buddha would be consistent with the use of 'body' and 'thinking' in every single place in the suttas with a body satipaṭṭhāna context, but just in the four jhānas, he would redefine 'body' as 'not body', and 'thinking' as 'not thinking'? 

Does that seem likely to you?

And he would do this secret redefinition without telling you about it? 

The revelation of the Buddha's secret redefinition would require the external assistance of specially appointed prophets that come 500 years and 2500 years after the Buddha died, to explain those terms vitakka and kāya which have a mysterious counter intuititve redefinition?  


Let's check in on those cows and the cowherd


Earlier, with the cowherd in the disembodied frozen bliss of Ajahn Brahm's "jhāna", the cows peacefully went home. 

But we need to stress test this simile and examine realistic possibilites.

Maybe the cows don't notice the cowherd is frozen, for 20 minutes, 60 minutes. 

But after that, they've grazed the area clean, and need to eat some more.

You ever wonder how vegan, herbivore animals get so massive? 

Cows have four stomachs. Giraffes graze for 12 hours a day.

These cows are still hungry.

One of the cows, Bessy, goes right up to the cowherd, nudges him, gets no reaction, nudges him again and still gets now reaction.

So Bessy thinks to herself and lucidly discerns (using vitakka, vicāra, sati and sampajāno), "if that cowherd can't move, he can't use that stick to hit us when we go graze wherever we want."

So Bessy moos to the other cows letting them know it's safe to go graze wherever they want without repercussion.

The cows go to town, eating and crapping wherever they want, trampling all over king's prized rose garden in his private pleasure garden. The cowherd has an unpleasant surprise waiting for him when he emerges from Ajahn Brahm's "jhāna":



seyyathāpi, bhikkhave,
“Just as,
vassānaṃ pacchime māse
(in) the-rains-period, following (the) last-month,
saradasamaye kiṭṭha-sambādhe
(in the) autumn-season, when the crops are ripening,
gopālako gāvo rakkheyya.
(a) cowherd, (his) cows (he) would look after:
so tā gāvo tato tato daṇḍena
on this side & that (with his) stick,
ākoṭeyya paṭikoṭeyya sannirundheyya sannivāreyya.
(he would) tap & poke & check & curb them.
taṃ kissa hetu?
Why is that?
passati hi so, bhikkhave,
Because he foresees
gopālako tato-nidānaṃ
(the) cowherd (on) account-of [letting cows run amuck]
vadhaṃ vā bandhanaṃ vā
flogging or imprisonment or
jāniṃ vā garahaṃ vā.
a fine or public censure.



Saturday, October 22, 2022

optimal eating strategy, intermittent fasting, mental part most important

 



3.1.1.7.8 - optimal eating strategy for yogi
Most important part of all, your motivation and attitude while eating

* memorize the STED formula for eating from AN 3.16. “...eating not for play, intoxication, … only to sustain body and nutrition to support spiritual practice…”

* recite formula before you eat

* recite it at least once while you’re eating it, preferably with every refill or new dish you eat or drink

* recite it at least once after you’re done with your meal

* When you recite the eating formula, use vitakka, vicāra, upekkha.

If you recite mindlessly, not pondering the meaning of what you’re saying, that’s just vitakka, thinking at a superficial level.

You only thought about what you’re reciting to the extent that you know you memorized something correctly and recited it correctly.

Using Vicāra means you ponder the meaning of what you’re reciting.

Using upekkha means your vicāra and Dharma investigation, that pondering is powered by jhāna samādhi, so you not only understand theoretically, but you understand directly at a deep level.

Deep enough that it affects your view, your motivation, your habits around eating.

* along with reciting the formula, also use some visualizations from other sutta passages on eating that are helpful. For example, this only takes a second to do, I visualize the simile from SN 12.6363.1. I visualize a family member, or a close friend, being cut into a thousand pieces of jerky, and I have to live on that to sustain my spiritual practice. There’s no way I overeat or eat for fun and pleasure when I do that visualization, and it only takes a second to do so there’s no excuse to not do it.

Allowable eating period is between local time 6am and 12 noon.

Out of the 24 hour day:

* 6 hour eating period

* 18 hour fasting period, no food, only water.

* Eat in either two sessions, or one session, depending on energetic requirements for the day.

Daily energy requirements will depend on one's activity, also weather.

In cold winter, you may need to eat more for example.

If you study suttas intensely, deep thinking burns calories like you wouldn't believe.

Advantages of eating in two sessions instead of one:

Because you have two opportunities to replenish energy, you can undereat a little bit each session.

So right after eating a meal, you could do sitting meditation and you wouldn't feel uncomfortable.

Eating in one session, you feel pressure to get both a proper mix and enough of all the nutrients so you have enough energy to sustain a 24 hour period.

Never overeat, whether you eat one session or two.

When you overeat, it just stresses your body without gaining what you had hoped to gain, which is extra energy that will give you better energy throughout 24 hour period. Instead, it feels like it just saps your energy in many ways:

* your body doesn't know what to do with surplus food, so more energy to excrete it or store it in liver or fat

* you feel sluggish and unable to do sitting meditation for 2 to 3 hours after overeating.

How not to overeat: this takes much trial and error. But in general, if you wait to get the bodily sensation of overeating, you've already been overeating for a while. Eating more slowly helps to dampen that effect.

There’s a wonderful invention, it’s called a refrigerator.

Don’t use the rationalization of food will go to waste if you don’t overeat.

You only end up wasting energy of your mind and body from having to deal with stress of food coma from overeating.

Also, if you have leftover to put in the fridge, it saves you some time for part of the next day’s meal. If you overeat now, the food tastes terrible. If you eat the leftover tomorrow, the same leftover food will taste great because you’ll be hungry then and need those nutrients. If you overeat that food now, it tastes horrible because your body is trying to tell you “don’t do it!” because the body will waste energy having to store surplus food or excrete it, and make you feel sluggish and useless for a few hours.

natural way of fasting and eating one session a day

Don’t eat your first session of the day until you feel hungry and really need the energy.

If you’re on a meditation retreat where you don’t have to do anything except jhāna, you’ll find your eating window gradually shrinks, and the amount of food you feel you need also shrinks.

When it feels comfortable, try eating one session that day.

If you have strong fourth jhāna, perhaps somedays you’re so energetic you don’t even feel the need to sleep or eat.

On the flip side, if your health is such that it’s not ready to eat less, then doing so can be detrimental.

How do you know if you're really hungry?

0) mental craving - either from habit, or just mentally craving delicious food. This comes not from energetic and nutritional need, just from 5kg and kāma 💘💃‍ sensual desire for pleasure.

1) stomach grumbling from being empty

2) body getting cold, have difficulty maintaining comfortably warm level of body heat

3) energy level weak - even walking, standing, staying awake becomes difficult. Science calls this low blood sugar.

#3 is really the one you really have to be concerned about.

#2, you can wear more layers of clothing, and do the exercise such as 🏃👨‍🍳🥧 to warm up the body, easily maintainable for 30-90 minutes, because you're only using about 10% more exertion than walking.

with #1, if you have plenty of body fat reserves, you can safely ignore stomach grumbling. If you do a gentle exercise like 🏃👨‍🍳🥧, it will smooth out the process of your body kicking into burning body fat for energy reserves.

#0 requires you to learn to distinguish between craving certain nutrients for real need, such as getting enough vitamin C so you don't get scurvy, enough sugar, protein and healthy dietary fat so you have smooth burning energy reserves throughout a 24hr day cycle.


Thursday, October 20, 2022




Re: What's wrong with Orthodox Theravāda or being a Fundamentalist
Post by frank k » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:31 am

PeaceLover wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:07 am...
...I have trouble understanding why anyone would consider "orthodoxy" or "fundamentalisms" as something in a negative lens? I'd appreciate if anyone could shed some light into my confusion! Thank you in advance...


Nothing wrong with the two terms, going by the dictionary.
The real problem is when people have incoherent, inconsistent, or obviously wrong interpretations of the teachings and then that become the 'traditional' or generally accepted "truth" of the religion.

A couple of examples of problems with "orthodox" Theravada
1.
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... -1072.html
2.
viewtopic.php?p=676259#p676259

fundamentalist: a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion.
"religious fundamentalists"
adjective
relating to or advocating the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.
"a fundamentalist Protestant preacher"

orthodox: adjective
1. following or conforming to the traditional or generally accepted rules or beliefs of a religion, philosophy, or practice.
"Burke's views were orthodox in his time"
Similar:
conservative
traditional
observant
conformist
devout
strict
true
true blue
of the faith
of the true faith
2. of the ordinary or usual type; normal.
"they avoided orthodox jazz venues"


Saturday, October 15, 2022

glossing all the terms in the four jhānas formula for Sammā Samādhi, using EBT references

 


Thursday, October 13, 2022

second jhāna formula, 'pasāda' means both internal purity and self-confidence

 

In answer to the question I posed in an earlier article that surveyed various commentaries on the meaning of 'pasāda' in second jhāna:

pasāda: what does it mean in the second jhāna formula? serenity, confidence/faith, or purity?


After more reasearch, I've reached a conclusion I'm satisfied with.


Vitakka-vicārānaṃ vūpasamā
with the subsiding of directed-thought and evaluation [of those verbal ☸Dharma thoughts],
ajjhattaṃ sam-pasādanaṃ
with internal purity and self-confidence,
🌄 cetaso ekodi-bhāvaṃ
his mind becomes singular in focus.
🚫(V&V💭) a-vitakkaṃ a-vicāraṃ
Without directed-thought and evaluation, [mental processing is now subverbal,]
🌄😁🙂 samādhi-jaṃ pīti-sukhaṃ
[mental] rapture and [physical] pleasure is born from undistractible-lucidity,
🌗 dutiyaṃ jhānaṃ upasampajja viharati.
he attains and lives in second jhāna.


4.3.2.3 – ajjhattaṃ sam-pasādanaṃ = with internal purity and self-confidence

1. pasāda can mean clarity, purity, for example in sixth abhiñña simile where meditator penetrates four noble truths and attains arahantship, he sees through clear/pure water different fish and marine life. The ‘purity/clarity’ of the water is ‘pasāda’.

1b. purity could also allude to first jhāna, one has used right view to discern and separate from desire for sensual pleasures and evil Dharmas, while second jhāna the distance from impurity is even greater, since one can see even more clearly with purer vision, one’s sword is sharper and cuts deeper, ones eyes are more clear and able to see more lucidly than first jhāna.

2. pasāda also means confidence, such as confidence in Buddha, Dharma, Sangha of monastics.

Thera-vāda commentary favors second definition of pasāda, but since both meanings apply very well, I’m assuming Buddha deliberately meant to invoke both meanings here.

The question is, what is one ‘confident’ about?

First jhāna has waxing and waning of the mental joy and physical pleasure, due to the wavering of vitakka and vicāra.

Second jhāna one has confidence because the samādhi is strong and unwavering.

First jhāna has some doubt whether one really has first jhāna quality of samādhi, or just one has gotten pretty good at thinking thoughts of Dharma that generate a continuous but not very intense or stable whole body level of pīti and sukha.

Second jhāna, there is no doubt that the stability and strength of this samādhi is not an ordinary state of mind. For some meditators, the physical pleasure is so intense it feels like a full body orgasm that can last hours. But whether mild or out of this world, there is self-confidence that this samādhi quality is undoubtedly jhāna, not something any ordinary person can do.

’pasāda’ conclusion

Translators and scholars often treat words as if you always have to make a choice and only go with one interpretation and exlude the others. I believe that’s a mistake, and especially when multiple interpretations satisfy the criteria of being eminently-useful , it seems prudent to accept all qualified interpretations. It’s not only in puns or jokes that the Buddha can intentionally use multiple meanings for a word.



Sunday, October 9, 2022

5min video: George Costanza from Seinfeld and benefits of celibacy, brahmacariya, abstinence

 

5min video: George Costanza from Seinfeld gives 

brilliant explanation of the dramaic increase in samādhi, sati (remembering, memory, "mindfulness")  potential when one keeps 8 precepts, brahmacariya, celibacy, keeping mind free of lust, sexual desire. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cD2_V_JSWZZT3RnkDvyPcxJYTD1HBFFj/view?usp=sharing



SP-FLUENT translation of 16 steps of breath meditation, with tricky terms like 'body', 'bodily/mental fabrication' spelled out

(updated 2022-10-11): I'm working on adding a little explanation for each of the 16 steps. Since step 3 is one you use all time whenever doing breath meditation, and is the key to entering the genuine 4 jhānas as defined by the Buddha in EBT, it's worth studying carefully.

16 – Ānā-pāna-s-sati: breath meditation

STED 16🌬️😤 instructions

(2022 SP-FLUENT translation by frankk‍ )
Here, a monk
[0.1] 🏞️ arañña-gato vā
[0.1] 🏞️ has gone to the wilderness, or
🌲 rukkha-mūla-gato vā
🌲 to a root of a tree, or
🏕️ suññā-(a)gāra-gato vā
🏕️ to an empty dwelling.
[0.2] nisīdati
[0.2] They sit down,
[0.3] 🧘 pallaṅkaṃ ābhujitvā
[0.3] 🧘 bending into a cross leg posture,
[0.4] 🏃📐 ujuṃ kāyaṃ paṇidhāya
[0.4] 🏃📐 straightening the body.
[0.5] 🌬️😤 pari-mukhaṃ satiṃ upaṭṭhapetvā.
[0.5] 🌬️😤 They establish remembrance [of ☸Dharma] in front [, making Dharma their main focus].
[0.6] 🐘 So sato-va assasati,
[0.6] 🐘 Always remembering [and applying ☸Dharma], he breathes in.
Sato-va passasati
Always “mindful” of [and applying ☸Dharma], he breathes out.

(4sp🐘 #1 🏃 kāyā-(a)nu-passī)

Dīghaṃ vā assasanto ‘dīghaṃ assasāmī’ti pajānāti,
(1a) When breathing in long, he discerns that: 'I am breathing in long.'
dīghaṃ vā passasanto ‘dīghaṃ passasāmī’ti pajānāti;
(1b) When breathing out long, he discerns that: 'I am breathing out long.'
rassaṃ vā assasanto ‘rassaṃ assasāmī’ti pajānāti,
(2a) When breathing in short, he discerns that: 'I am breathing in short.'
rassaṃ vā passasanto ‘rassaṃ passasāmī’ti pajānāti;
(2b) When breathing out short, he discerns that: 'I am breathing out short.'
🏃 ‘sabba-kāya-p-paṭisaṃvedī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(3a) 🏃 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in sensitive to the entire [physical] body.’
🏃 ‘sabba-kāya-p-paṭisaṃvedī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(3b) 🏃 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out sensitive to the entire [physical] body.’
🌊🏃 ‘passambhayaṃ kāya-saṅkhāraṃ assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(4a) 🌊🏃 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in pacifying bodily co-activities [which underlie what we experience as a physical body].
🌊🏃 ‘passambhayaṃ kāya-saṅkhāraṃ passasissāmī’ti sikkhati.
(4b) 🌊🏃 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out pacifying bodily co-activities [which underlie what we experience as a physical body].

(4sp🐘 #2 vedanā-(a)nu-passī )

😁 ‘Pīti-p-paṭisaṃvedī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(5a) 😁 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in sensitive to [mental] joy.’
😁 ‘pīti-p-paṭisaṃvedī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(5b) 😁 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out sensitive to [mental] joy.’
🙂 ‘sukhap-paṭisaṃvedī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(6a) 🙂 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in sensitive to [physical] pleasure.’
🙂 ‘sukhap-paṭisaṃvedī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(6b) 🙂 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out sensitive to [physical] pleasure.’
💭 ‘citta-saṅkhārap-paṭisaṃvedī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(7a) 💭 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in sensitive to mental co-activities [which underlie what we experience as the “mind”].’
💭 ‘citta-saṅkhārap-paṭisaṃvedī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(7b) 💭 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out sensitive to mental co-activities [which underlie what we experience as the “mind”].’
🌊💭 ‘passambhayaṃ citta-saṅkhāraṃ assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(8a) 🌊💭 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in pacifying mental co-activities [which underlie what we experience as the “mind”].’
🌊💭 ‘passambhayaṃ citta-saṅkhāraṃ passasissāmī’ti sikkhati.
(8b) 🌊💭 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out pacifying mental co-activities [which underlie what we experience as the “mind”].’

(4sp🐘 #3 cittā-(a)nu-passī)

‘Citta-p-paṭisaṃvedī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(9a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in sensitive to the mind.’
‘citta-p-paṭisaṃvedī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(9b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out sensitive to the mind.’
😁 ‘abhip-pa-modayaṃ cittaṃ assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(10a) 😁 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in producing joy in the mind.’
😁 ‘abhip-pa-modayaṃ cittaṃ passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(10b) 😁 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out producing joy in the mind.’
🌄 ‘samādahaṃ cittaṃ assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(11a) 🌄 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in making the mind undistractible-and-lucid.’
🌄 ‘samādahaṃ cittaṃ passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(11b) 🌄 They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out making the mind undistractible-and-lucid.’
‘vimocayaṃ cittaṃ assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(12a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in liberating the mind.’
‘vimocayaṃ cittaṃ passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(12b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out liberating the mind.’

(4sp🐘 #4 ☸Dhammā-(a)nu-passī)

‘a-niccā-(a)nu-passī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati.
(13a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in continuously-seeing impermanence.’
‘A-niccā-(a)nu-passī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(13b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out continuously-seeing impermanence.’
‘vi-rāgā-(a)nu-passī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(14a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in continuously-seeing dispassion.’
‘vi-rāgā-(a)nu-passī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(14b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out continuously-seeing dispassion.’
‘nirodhā-(a)nu-passī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(15a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in continuously-seeing cessation.’
‘nirodhā-(a)nu-passī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati;
(15b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out continuously-seeing cessation.’
‘paṭinissaggā-(a)nu-passī assasissāmī’ti sikkhati,
(16a) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe in continuously-seeing relinquishment [leading to nirvana].’
‘paṭinissaggā-(a)nu-passī passasissāmī’ti sikkhati.
(16b) They train themselves, [thinking]: 'I will breathe out continuously-seeing relinquishment [leading to nirvana].’
clarification of some terms
un·der·lie = verb: underlie; 1. be a significant cause or basis of (something) even if not necessarily manifest or obvious.

'thinking’: Quoted text in the EBT suttas marked by ending with ‘ti’, can be either vitakka and vicāra verbal thoughts that can occur in first jhāna , or subverbal mental processing that can occur in second jhāna and beyond.
In an oral tradition , you hear, memorize, recollect with sati (“mindfulness”), and then ‘think’ about that recollection.
The ‘thinking’ that occurs in the 16 steps, show the role of sati and vitakka, and how vitakka gradually fades into subverbal mental processing done with sampajāno and upekkha of third and fourth jhāna.
Clearly the oral tradition wouldn’t work if you had ‘vitakka’ redefined into ‘placing the mind’.
The ‘thinking’ in those 16 steps clearly can be verbal, linguistic mental talk, the ‘Dharma’ that sati remembers and thinks about.
The Buddha would not be giving coherent Dharma instructions on how those 16 steps lead to jhāna if vitakka suddenly meant ‘placing the mind’.