Re: Absorption Jhana vs. Aware Jhana Edit Delete Report Quote Post by frank k » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:38 am mikenz66 wrote: ↑ Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:55 am Hi Emptyset, This is a frequently-argued question and it is unfortunate that is is sometimes expressed as "sutta vs visuddhimagga". Several discussions of how "absorbed" the jhana that the Buddha taught, based on early texts, are linked by Ven Dhammanando's post here: viewtopic.php?p=560317#p560317 See also Bhikkhu Analayo: "A Brief History of Buddhist Absorption", Mindfulness, 2020, 11.3: 571–586. https://www.buddhismuskunde.uni-hamburg ... yjhana.pdf Mike Deja Vu. Mike, are you a real person, or an AI bot spamming fake news/misinformation on jhāna whenever the topic comes up? We've had this exact same discussion many times now. I've shown in detail how Analayo's understanding of jhāna in his book you quoted is based on fallacious reasoning here: https://lucid24.org/sted/8aam/8samadh