article update 2024 - 01 - 29
Both volumes of PDF have now been released by the book publisher (before only first volume).
The free version of book is fully available now.
I'll be continuing to massage and improve the formatting of the book over time,
Re: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?
Post by Assaji » Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:36 am
Hi Dhamma friends,
The new translation of the Vimuttimagga by Ven. Nyanatusita is now available as a free eBook at:
https://www.buddhism.hku.hk/publication ... uttimagga/
Re: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?Report
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Post by frank k » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:24 am
If you read the introductory section to Vimt., it gives you a pretty good idea of the differences between Vism. and Vimt.
Vimt. is practical and concise, meant for people seeking nirvana.
Vism. is compiled with scholarly detail [of questionable value], by non meditators who go on long winded meandering without giving proper guidance on when there are contradictory positions presented, which one is reliable, which one should be followed. It enjoys greater popularity because it's adopted by the late Theravada party, and also has a 'bigger is better' fallacy. The book is much bigger and thicker and it sounds complicated and impressive therefore it must be better and true and correct.
Unfortunately most end users lack the ability and qualifications to sort out what's true and what's false.
free pdf here:
https://www.buddhism.hku.hk/publication-post/the-path-to-freedom-vimuttimagga/lucid24.org digital edition
PDF's are terrible formats for digital devices.I've made an html version with massive table of contents of permanent hyperlinks here:
I'll be continuing to massage and improve the formatting of the book over time,
but so far the most important chapters, 8-12, I've made clear separation between footnotes and actual Vimt. text,
and added a massive number of useful direct hpyerlinks to topics of interest, such as:
Vimt-N 8 - CHAPTER 8 The Way to Practise [the Meditation Subjects]1
Vimt-N 8.0 - A. Earth Totality
Vimt-N 8.1 - B. First Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.2 - C. Second Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.3 - D. Third Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.4 - E. Fourth Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.5 - F. Base of Boundless Space
Vimt-N 8.6 - G. Base of Boundless Consciousness
Vimt-N 8.7 - H. Base of Nothingness
Vimt-N 8.8 - I. Base of Neither-perception-nor-non-perception
Vimt-N 8.9 - J. Other Totalities
Vimt-N 8.10 - K. Ten Perceptions of the Foul
Vimt-N 8.11 - L. Ten Recollections
Vimt-N 8.11.1 - L1. Recollection of the Buddha
Vimt-N 8.11.2 - L2. Recollection of the Dhamma
Vimt-N 8.11.3 - L3. Recollection of the Saṅgha
Vimt-N 8.11.4 - L4. Recollection of Virtue
Vimt-N 8.11.5 - L5. Recollection of Generosity
Vimt-N 8.11.6 - L6. Recollection of Deities
Vimt-N 8.11.7 - L7. Mindfulness of Breathing
Vimt-N 8.11.7.100 - Introduction
Vimt-N 8.11.7.101 - Procedure
Vimt-N 8.11.7.102 - Explanation
Vimt-N 8.11.7.103 - The sign
Vimt-N 8.11.7.104 - Four ways of practice
Vimt-N 8.11.7.105 - The sixteen training grounds
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.1 - (1–2) “When he breathes in long (and short)
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.3 - (3) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the whole body
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.4 - (4) “He trains, ‘Calming the bodily formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.5 - (5) “He trains, ‘Experiencing rapture
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.6 - (6) “He trains, ‘Experiencing pleasure
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.7 - (7) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the mental formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.8 - (8) “He trains, ‘Calming the mental formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.9 - (9) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.10 - (10) “He trains, ‘Gladdening the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.11 - (11) “He trains, ‘Concentrating the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.12 - (12) “He trains, ‘Freeing the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.13 - (13) “He trains, ‘Contemplating impermanence
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.14 - (14) “He trains, ‘Contemplating fading away
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.15 - (15) “He trains, ‘Contemplating cessation
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.16 - (16) “He trains, ‘Contemplating relinquishment
Vimt-N 8.11.7.106 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 8.11.8 - L8. Recollection of Death
Vimt-N 8.11.9 - L9. Mindfulness of the Body
Vimt-N 8.11.9.120 - Introduction
Vimt-N 8.11.9.121 - Procedure
Vimt-N 8.11.9.122 - Thirteen ways of practice
Vimt-N 8.11.9.123 - Seed
Vimt-N 8.11.9.124 - Location
Vimt-N 8.11.9.125 - Condition
Vimt-N 8.11.9.126 - Oozing
Vimt-N 8.11.9.127 - Gradual physical formation
Vimt-N 8.11.9.128 - Kinds of worms
Vimt-N 8.11.9.129 - Support
Vimt-N 8.11.9.130 - Mass
Vimt-N 8.11.9.131 - Repulsiveness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.132 - Dirtiness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.133 - [Breeding] ground
Vimt-N 8.11.9.134 - Ingratitude
Vimt-N 8.11.9.135 - Finiteness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.136 - Conclusion
Vimt-N 8.11.10 - L10. Recollection of Stillness
Vimt-N 8.12 - M. Four Immeasurables
Vimt-N 8.12.1 - M1. Loving-kindness
Vimt-N 8.12.2 - M2. Compassion
Vimt-N 8.12.3 - M3. Appreciative gladness
Vimt-N 8.12.4 - M4. Equanimity
Vimt-N 8.13 - N. Defining of the Four Elements
Vimt-N 8.14 - O. Perception of Repulsiveness of Food
Vimt-N 8.15 - P. Base of Nothingness and Base of Neither-perception-nor-non-perception
Vimt-N 8.16 - Q. Chapter Conclusion
Vimt-N 9 - CHAPTER 9 Five Direct Knowledges
Vimt-N 9.1 - Introduction
Vimt-N 9.2 - Three kinds of supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.3 - Seven kinds of supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.4 - Supernormal power due to the pervasive force of knowledge
Vimt-N 9.5 - Supernormal power due to the pervasive force of concentration
Vimt-N 9.6 - Supernormal power of the noble ones
Vimt-N 9.7 - Supernormal power born of result of kamma
Vimt-N 9.8 - Supernormal power of the meritorious
Vimt-N 9.9 - Supernormal power sprung from magic knowledge
Vimt-N 9.10 - Supernormal power due to [right] application
Vimt-N 9.11 - Procedure of developing supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.12 - Supernormal power of resolve
Vimt-N 9.13 - Supernormal power of miraculous transformation
Vimt-N 9.14 - Supernormal power of [producing a] mind-made [body]
Vimt-N 9.15 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 9.16 - Divine ear
Vimt-N 9.17 - Knowledge of others’ minds
Vimt-N 9.18 - Recollection of past lives
Vimt-N 9.19 - Divine eye
Vimt-N 9.20 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 10 - CHAPTER 10 Exposition of Wisdom (Paññā-niddesa)
Vimt-N 11 - CHAPTER 11 The Five Skills
Vimt-N 12 - CHAPTER 12 Exposition of the Truths (Sacca-niddesa)
Vimt-N 8.0 - A. Earth Totality
Vimt-N 8.1 - B. First Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.2 - C. Second Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.3 - D. Third Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.4 - E. Fourth Jhāna
Vimt-N 8.5 - F. Base of Boundless Space
Vimt-N 8.6 - G. Base of Boundless Consciousness
Vimt-N 8.7 - H. Base of Nothingness
Vimt-N 8.8 - I. Base of Neither-perception-nor-non-perception
Vimt-N 8.9 - J. Other Totalities
Vimt-N 8.10 - K. Ten Perceptions of the Foul
Vimt-N 8.11 - L. Ten Recollections
Vimt-N 8.11.1 - L1. Recollection of the Buddha
Vimt-N 8.11.2 - L2. Recollection of the Dhamma
Vimt-N 8.11.3 - L3. Recollection of the Saṅgha
Vimt-N 8.11.4 - L4. Recollection of Virtue
Vimt-N 8.11.5 - L5. Recollection of Generosity
Vimt-N 8.11.6 - L6. Recollection of Deities
Vimt-N 8.11.7 - L7. Mindfulness of Breathing
Vimt-N 8.11.7.100 - Introduction
Vimt-N 8.11.7.101 - Procedure
Vimt-N 8.11.7.102 - Explanation
Vimt-N 8.11.7.103 - The sign
Vimt-N 8.11.7.104 - Four ways of practice
Vimt-N 8.11.7.105 - The sixteen training grounds
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.1 - (1–2) “When he breathes in long (and short)
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.3 - (3) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the whole body
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.4 - (4) “He trains, ‘Calming the bodily formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.5 - (5) “He trains, ‘Experiencing rapture
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.6 - (6) “He trains, ‘Experiencing pleasure
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.7 - (7) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the mental formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.8 - (8) “He trains, ‘Calming the mental formations
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.9 - (9) “He trains, ‘Experiencing the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.10 - (10) “He trains, ‘Gladdening the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.11 - (11) “He trains, ‘Concentrating the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.12 - (12) “He trains, ‘Freeing the mind
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.13 - (13) “He trains, ‘Contemplating impermanence
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.14 - (14) “He trains, ‘Contemplating fading away
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.15 - (15) “He trains, ‘Contemplating cessation
Vimt-N 8.11.7.5.16 - (16) “He trains, ‘Contemplating relinquishment
Vimt-N 8.11.7.106 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 8.11.8 - L8. Recollection of Death
Vimt-N 8.11.9 - L9. Mindfulness of the Body
Vimt-N 8.11.9.120 - Introduction
Vimt-N 8.11.9.121 - Procedure
Vimt-N 8.11.9.122 - Thirteen ways of practice
Vimt-N 8.11.9.123 - Seed
Vimt-N 8.11.9.124 - Location
Vimt-N 8.11.9.125 - Condition
Vimt-N 8.11.9.126 - Oozing
Vimt-N 8.11.9.127 - Gradual physical formation
Vimt-N 8.11.9.128 - Kinds of worms
Vimt-N 8.11.9.129 - Support
Vimt-N 8.11.9.130 - Mass
Vimt-N 8.11.9.131 - Repulsiveness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.132 - Dirtiness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.133 - [Breeding] ground
Vimt-N 8.11.9.134 - Ingratitude
Vimt-N 8.11.9.135 - Finiteness
Vimt-N 8.11.9.136 - Conclusion
Vimt-N 8.11.10 - L10. Recollection of Stillness
Vimt-N 8.12 - M. Four Immeasurables
Vimt-N 8.12.1 - M1. Loving-kindness
Vimt-N 8.12.2 - M2. Compassion
Vimt-N 8.12.3 - M3. Appreciative gladness
Vimt-N 8.12.4 - M4. Equanimity
Vimt-N 8.13 - N. Defining of the Four Elements
Vimt-N 8.14 - O. Perception of Repulsiveness of Food
Vimt-N 8.15 - P. Base of Nothingness and Base of Neither-perception-nor-non-perception
Vimt-N 8.16 - Q. Chapter Conclusion
Vimt-N 9 - CHAPTER 9 Five Direct Knowledges
Vimt-N 9.1 - Introduction
Vimt-N 9.2 - Three kinds of supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.3 - Seven kinds of supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.4 - Supernormal power due to the pervasive force of knowledge
Vimt-N 9.5 - Supernormal power due to the pervasive force of concentration
Vimt-N 9.6 - Supernormal power of the noble ones
Vimt-N 9.7 - Supernormal power born of result of kamma
Vimt-N 9.8 - Supernormal power of the meritorious
Vimt-N 9.9 - Supernormal power sprung from magic knowledge
Vimt-N 9.10 - Supernormal power due to [right] application
Vimt-N 9.11 - Procedure of developing supernormal power
Vimt-N 9.12 - Supernormal power of resolve
Vimt-N 9.13 - Supernormal power of miraculous transformation
Vimt-N 9.14 - Supernormal power of [producing a] mind-made [body]
Vimt-N 9.15 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 9.16 - Divine ear
Vimt-N 9.17 - Knowledge of others’ minds
Vimt-N 9.18 - Recollection of past lives
Vimt-N 9.19 - Divine eye
Vimt-N 9.20 - Miscellaneous topics
Vimt-N 10 - CHAPTER 10 Exposition of Wisdom (Paññā-niddesa)
Vimt-N 11 - CHAPTER 11 The Five Skills
Vimt-N 12 - CHAPTER 12 Exposition of the Truths (Sacca-niddesa)
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Re: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?
Post by Assaji » Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:36 am
Hi Dhamma friends,
The new translation of the Vimuttimagga by Ven. Nyanatusita is now available as a free eBook at:
https://www.buddhism.hku.hk/publication ... uttimagga/
Re: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?Report
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Post by frank k » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:24 am
If you read the introductory section to Vimt., it gives you a pretty good idea of the differences between Vism. and Vimt.
Vimt. is practical and concise, meant for people seeking nirvana.
Vism. is compiled with scholarly detail [of questionable value], by non meditators who go on long winded meandering without giving proper guidance on when there are contradictory positions presented, which one is reliable, which one should be followed. It enjoys greater popularity because it's adopted by the late Theravada party, and also has a 'bigger is better' fallacy. The book is much bigger and thicker and it sounds complicated and impressive therefore it must be better and true and correct.
Unfortunately most end users lack the ability and qualifications to sort out what's true and what's false.
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