Saturday, December 3, 2022

why isn't Sammā-sam-buddha-sāvako "a disciple who also happens to be a Buddha"?

 If an ariya-sāvako is supposedly a "noble-disciple" (enlightened), rather than "disciple of enlightened noble one", 

then why is Sammā-sam-buddha-sāvako a "disciple of a Buddha"
rather than "a disciple who also happens to be a Buddha"? 



(these two Dhp verses are lightly modifed version of Sujato's translations)



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why isn't Sammā-sam-buddha-sāvako "a disciple who also happens to be a Buddha"?
Post by frank k » Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:44 am
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So why do B. Bodhi and Sujato translate and interpret ariya-savako as (stream enterer at least) "noble disciple" everywhere in all the suttas as far as I can tell, instead of "disciple of the noble ones", which works in every single instance of the suttas, since an enlighted disciple of the ariya is also a disciple, but a disciple is not necessarily a stream enterer.





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