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Re: Violent shaking during meditation

Post by frank k » 

Akashad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:13 amHi all,

Anyone knows why there is violent shaking during meditation.I've been staying with the Breath for 2 days off the cushion 24/7 + 1-2 hour sitting meditation and my body is violently shaking to the point where I had to stop meditating.Its almost like Parkinsons involuntary tremblings.I thought maybe I am just in a bad angle but I noticed even with a straight posture it starts trembling from within in waves then just violent waves all over my body..it's too much.Like an earthquake.I have experienced this before but stopped meditating for awhile and now that I picked it up again the strong vibrations are shaking me.

Anyone has any theory or idea why?

I don't shake in my normal day to day life only when I am meditating.

Thank you.
This is jhāna constipation, perfectly normal.
https://lucid24.org/sted/8aam/8samadhi/ ... index.html

Getting a proper mix of daily physical exercise with cardio, yoga, stretching, accupressure in problem areas, will help dissolve energetic blockages faster and more smoothly than doing only static meditation postures and living a sedentary lifestyle as most modern people.
Taiji quan + qigong, or a good Chinese internal martial art is going to be more effective, because you're learning to incorporate jhāna simultaneously with exercise movements, whereas people doing regular exercise and regular activities are habitually tense all the time (blocking jhāna and the shaking you experience).

Try different static postures as well, for example standing normally, standing with all your weight on one leg with other leg completely relaxed, having arms raised, etc., lying down in lion posture, lying down on your back, sitting in chair versus sitting on floor, etc..
Comparing how the shaking differs with these different static postures may give you some insight into where your major blockages are.

The fastest way to cure jhana constipation is celibacy, noble silence (passaddhi / pacification awakening factor with a minimum of verbal thoughts), and daily physical exercise described above.

The way to drag on the condition a long time, years, decades, is live like normal worldlings.
Indulging in sensual pleasures, sex, food, drinking, talking, socializing, partying, gambling, etc., drains your jhana battery instead of charging it up.
But indulgence in sensual pleasures also decreases jhanic force, so bodily shaking during meditation can also stop eventually because the jhanic force is getting weaker, and the current in your jhana battery is getting weaker so it's less force and less current pushing around your body.

Follow the 8 precepts though, celibacy with noble silence, builds up your jhana battery by increasing the intrinsic internal energy, and increasing the jhanic force of the currents. The jhanic force and jhanic current of energy will gradually dissolve all of your energetic blockages on its own, just as SN 54 describes with no detail, and shaking will stop, gradually smoothing out over time.
Then the strong jhanic force and strong current will feel like the four jhana similes of AN 5.28.

Follow the wordly way of indulging in sensual pleasures, you lower your jhanic ceiling to having occasional small fits of first jhana and painful bodily shaking instead of second jhana and higher.


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