can you do metta and 4 jhanas simultaneously?

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Post by frank k » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:02 am

Dhammanando wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:34 am

confusedlayman wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:11 am

So one cant do metta radiation if he attained 1st jhana by breath or kasina?

Not while in the jhāna, but one could do it after emerging from it. Indeed that would be a particularly good time to do it, since it's normal for the mind to be "pure and bright, unblemished, free from defects, malleable, wieldy and steady" for some duration after emergence.

That's not how it works in EBT and earlier Theravada Abhidhamma. See the difference between how Vimutti magga and Visuddhi magga perform the 4bv brahma viharas.

In EBT and early Abhidhamma, you don't leave the 4bv to enter a frozen state (redefined "jhana") and then emerge from a frozen state to do 4bv. You do 4bv and 4 jhanas simultaneously.

(vimt. and vism passages here);
http://lucid24.org/sted/ebt/not/index.html