B. Subhuti, an American monk in Pa Auk system following Vism. claims success rate of people able to accomplish VRJ (vism. redefinition of jhana) is actually high, producing hundreds, maybe over a thousand people who can do "jhana". Ven. Dhammando points out a huge statistical problem, based on Vism text: Re: Ajahn Brahmavamso's Dark Jhana Report Quote Post by Dhammanando » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:10 am bksubhuti wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:53 am 1 in 1000 as stated in the vsm is probably "run of the mill population selected at random" This is just a baseless conjecture and not the Theravada view. The text of the Visuddhimagga offers no support for it, while Dhammapāla's Visuddhimagga-ṭīkā actually contradicts it, for it limits the scope of the term "beginner" ( ādikammika ) to yogāvacaras who are "regularly/habitually engaged in mental development" ( bhāvanaṃ anuyuñjanto ). Clearly this doesn't mean, "Any Tom, Dick or Harry....
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