relationship between sati, iddhipada, arahantship

Re: Can you develop Iddhipada by Satipathana?

by frank k » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:40 am

You need sati developing any path factor. The 4sp satipatthana are the nimittas/signs of samadhi. The 4ip iddhipada, all have 'samadhi' embedded in their formula. And the 4 types of ip, if you study those words carefully, the first 2 figure prominently in the right effort formula (chanda, virya). So in a sense, the 4ip are describing how right effort and right sati are developed to produce right samadhi. If you compare the 4ip extended formula with AN 6.29 and AN 5.28, by studying the role of the development of luminosity for knowledge and vision, and the lack of piti and sukha mentioned in the 4ip, and the easy accessability of the 6 abhinna from developing 4ip, then it becomes clear the 4ip are ways to purify a fourth jhana to the point of being able to attain 6 abhinna. And since the destruction of the asavas (the 6th abhinna) is arahantship, then this is why the Buddha in the SN 51 iddhipada suttas say that all brahmans, ascetics, etc, that have become arahants who did so by means of 4ip.

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Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:43 pm
Can you develop Iddhipada by Satipathana?
If yes, how?

Four bases of magical/mental/supernatural power (cattāro iddhipādā)[edit]
1.Will (chanda, S. chanda)
2.Energy (viriya, S. vīrya)
3.Consciousness (citta, S. citta)
4.Examination (vīmaṁsa or vīmaŋsā, S. mimāṃsā

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