Visuddhi magga, Ajahn Brahm, breath meditation, and the simile of the cheating wife
Here's a poor fellow (or gal) who's trying to explain how Vism's "breath" meditation could actually be "breath" meditation if the meditation subject is actually a patch of visible light, and it isn't even possible in that state of VRJ to sense the body, let alone the breath in the body.
auto wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:58 am... And now to align with Sutta then the 'i am aware of breathing in' could denote the breath-perception. ...
And if you're in an arupa samadhi (Vism. redefinition of "jhana") where you have no perception of body and no perception of the physical breath, that can't denote breath perception.
You're like the guy whose wife is cheating on him, all of his friends know it and try to tell him, but he's still so convinced in the devotion of his wife he believes her lies and don't believe all of their objective and truthful testimony over hers, and won't bother to check the evidence even though it's so easy to do.
(Vism. and late Abhidhamma is your wife, in case you don't get the simile).
Another poor deluded blind faith follower of vism. said:
... You still not bringing anything substantial to the table. ... Good luck!
Um, open your eyes? The very first post I entered into the thread, containing these two detailed research articles describing how EBT jhana and Vism. redefinition of jhana are drastically different.
You actually want to talk about substance, then I'm listening. But if you're just going to keep burying your head in the sand along with all the other deluded blind faith followers who think Vism. Jhana and pali suttas are talking about the same jhana, don't waste our time.
https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p580263 A detailed analysis of where Vism. and Ajahn Brahm diverge into their own meditation methods is done here: EBT Jhāna Vs. VRJ (V)isuddhi-magga (Re)-definition of (J)hana
(V)isuddhi-magga (Re)-definition of (J)hana 
-jhana
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