Re: Does Tear Come Out, Eyeballs Shake when you do Anapanasati meditation?
If you do enough meditation and research various traditions on their meditation techniques, you'll start to see the common underlying principles.
Lots of notes on that here:
https://lucid24.org/sted/7sb/5passaddhi/index.html
In short, it's actually very easy to do jhāna, what's difficult is few people have the wisdom and persistence to dedicate time and effort to it every day, much of the day.
Even the novice can get the physical part of jhāna very quickly, all it is is deep relaxation (kāya passaddhi especially).
Until the energy channels are clear, you'll get vibrations, body shaking, eye fluttering, throat twitching, ants crawling on your face, all kind of strange effects.
If you really charge up your jhāna battery, stay celibate, practice lots of noble silence to not dissipate jhānic force, all the shaking will attenuate and gradually disappear, your physical health will improve greatly, and you'll experience various degrees of blissful meditation that are described in the suttas as 4 jhānas. It's all about building up precious internal energy, charging up the jhāna battery, the the body naturally will turn the jhāna force internally and attempt to clear all the energetic blockages on its own given sufficient time.
But if you try to have it both ways, indulge in sensual pleasures and have a meditative practice, then whenever you attempt to do jhana, the shakings and unpleasant side effects will get worse over time (years, decades), more painful, your physical health will get worse, sleep will be difficult, etc. Pretty much the normal condition of most human beings, it's just that they just think it's normal and nothing wrong with it. And the laughable western medicine to attempt to alleviate some of their medical problems only mask symptoms and give some temporary placebo relief.
This (charging the jhāna battery with correct meditation and working through constipation with perseverance) is the underlying principle at work in all meditative systems in all religions, just that most systems don't explain it clearly or understand the general principles. They take their limited experience in meditation, overlay some dogma and misguided ideas on top of it and present it as if all meditators experience things in that order and in that way.
Lots of notes on that here:
https://lucid24.org/sted/7sb/5passaddhi/index.html
In short, it's actually very easy to do jhāna, what's difficult is few people have the wisdom and persistence to dedicate time and effort to it every day, much of the day.
Even the novice can get the physical part of jhāna very quickly, all it is is deep relaxation (kāya passaddhi especially).
Until the energy channels are clear, you'll get vibrations, body shaking, eye fluttering, throat twitching, ants crawling on your face, all kind of strange effects.
If you really charge up your jhāna battery, stay celibate, practice lots of noble silence to not dissipate jhānic force, all the shaking will attenuate and gradually disappear, your physical health will improve greatly, and you'll experience various degrees of blissful meditation that are described in the suttas as 4 jhānas. It's all about building up precious internal energy, charging up the jhāna battery, the the body naturally will turn the jhāna force internally and attempt to clear all the energetic blockages on its own given sufficient time.
But if you try to have it both ways, indulge in sensual pleasures and have a meditative practice, then whenever you attempt to do jhana, the shakings and unpleasant side effects will get worse over time (years, decades), more painful, your physical health will get worse, sleep will be difficult, etc. Pretty much the normal condition of most human beings, it's just that they just think it's normal and nothing wrong with it. And the laughable western medicine to attempt to alleviate some of their medical problems only mask symptoms and give some temporary placebo relief.
This (charging the jhāna battery with correct meditation and working through constipation with perseverance) is the underlying principle at work in all meditative systems in all religions, just that most systems don't explain it clearly or understand the general principles. They take their limited experience in meditation, overlay some dogma and misguided ideas on top of it and present it as if all meditators experience things in that order and in that way.
Maarten wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:12 amAkashad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:59 amWhen in Jhana it showed that their brainwaves showed clonic-like seizure activity.Seizures happen when neurons fire off together like a sort of implosion. This happens before jhana a sort of like implosion or bursting where you basically burst out of the Self as you know it and become like waves or currents in an invisible ocean.Interesting post!
When I get into 'Jhana' or go in that direction, my body always starts shaking, a bit like a seizure, although I can stop this with an act of will, but that would disrupt the meditation. I could never find any info on it, aside from hearing it was mentioned as one of the 16 types of pity in the Vishudimagga? (I never read it)
In Hindu Meditation this seems to be very common, they call it kundalini awakening. You can find plenty of videos of them getting these 'seizures'.
Tears are also very common with this type of experience.
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