Skip to main content

The Miseducation of Pīti😁 in Theravada

THOX (Theravada Orthodoxy) teaches this subject in a way that promotes the marginal case of spontaneously arisen Piti upon entering first jhana, as the main definition. Whereas in EBT, we can see Piti is something that needs to be actively developed, nurtured, reflected upon even while in jhāna, so one sees the cause and effect relationship between virtue and the spontaneous expression of piti in the jhanas.

In other words, THOX has cause and effect inverted. It treats piti as an effect, as something that happens to you when you do their pure samatha VRJ (vism. redefinition of jhana), piti is a reward.

In EBT, piti, pamojja, mudita, are all very closely related if not synonymous, and they are activities you actively do, nurture, develop, rather than treating them like magic beans that magically sprout when you blank your mind out 'one-pointedly' on a kasina or breath nimitta, and are rewarded with piti and sukha in jhana. In EBT, one is cognizant of the cause and effect relationship that piti and mudita  has with the spontaneous piti and sukha that arises in jhana. 

Here is a summary, more details to be written later to explain the common misunderstandings promulgated by THOX.

STED Pīti



Pīti😁 sā-misā (worldly, carnal)

Rapture, mental thrill, excitement derived from worldly pleasures like food, sex, etc.

Pīti😁 nirā-misā (unworldly, non carnal, spiritual)

0. Note Pīti😁 in first and second jhāna, and 7sb☀️ → 4😁 (fourth of 7 awakening factors), are exactly the same. They're both nirā-misā (unworldly, non carnal) rapture (SN 46.3).
1. the “default” option the Buddha expects us to use as a pīti generator on demand, comes from the prior 7sb factor “vīriya-sam-bojjhanga”. In short, it’s because viriya is doing a good job of purifying our mind and behavior, the uplifting mental emotion of rapture/pīti and pamojja (mudita) arise from reflecting in ourselves that our sīla and virtue are pure, so we can train all day and night enraptured.
2. Pīti😁 caused by 7sb☀️ → 1🐘 sati-bojjhanga deliberately choosing a particular Dhamma topic to recollect and feed into the 7sb samadhi engine. The topic would be appropriate to the needs of the immediate moment. But pretty much any Dhamma topic should cause rapture to arise, because you know your dukkha💩 is about to be lessened by applying that Dharma, right away. It’s just like an addict getting an endorphine rush before they even consume the physical or mental food. The mere thought anticipating the pleasurable result that's about to happen triggers the pleasure chemicals in the brain before 'contact' with the source actually happens. Similarly, if you’re not dense, eventually you can tap into the same biochemical process of cue/trigger, routine/habit, reward (brain chemical high) by paying attention to the nimitta or perception that any genuine Dharma is beautiful, not just aesthetically, but because it pays cold hard cash and delivers results in immediate relief from Dukkha.
3. Other causes of Pīti😁 would be combinations, subsets, and slight variations of category 1 and 2, such piti caused by encountering inspiring figures in the sangha, such as the Buddha and arahants, especially an inspiring Dhamma teacher delivering a live Dhamma talk. Delighting in virtue of your companions in the holy life, and good Dhamma friends, even just seeing their presence or thinking about them (SN 46.3).
4. spontaneous Pīti😁 and jhāna can just suddenly hit you like a hurricane whereby you enter jhāna by pacifying (passaddhi-bojjhanga) the body and mind, and the hydraulic sensation and/or electrical orgasmic fireworks can suddenly hit you. The moment right before, the mind was completely ordinary, and did not deliberately choose a Dhamma topic with which to be inspired by.

✅Right and ⛔Wrong

✅ in case #4, even though one did not intentionally direct the mind toward an inspiring Dhamma topic, or reflect on one's virtue (cases 1-3), the pīti is a result of one's long term virtuous and effective practice. That cumulative practice sowed the seeds for seemingly spontaneous jhāna and pīti to occur.
⛔ Late Theravada propaganda redefined jhāna into a pure samatha vehicle (divorced from vipassana) and explains case #4 being the result of forcing the mind into "one-pointedness", leading to a supression of 5 hindrances. This is likely of heterodox origin, and goes completely against the grain of EBT, which emphasizes the union of samatha and vipassana within jhāna, and development of pīti and insight using 7sb holistically and organically, in conjunction with vipassana while in the 4 jhānas.
⛔ contrary to EBT case 0 stated above (pīti of jhāna is exactly the same as pīti-sambojjhanga of 7sb), Late Theravada claims they are different (♾️🦆 infinite duck fallacy). They try to sabotage 7sb awakening factors by creating a 5 jhāna factor system to replace 7sb as the natural counterpart to 5niv hindrances.



Comments

  1. So important is this topic: happiness/gladness is not just an effect of meditation, but is primarily treated as the cause of samadhi. Happiness and gladness is like muscles, and can be trained and conditioned, both in terms of their robustness (quantity) and texture (quality). An important part of meditative training is in beefing up piti in those two regards, and therefore meditation is far from the mechanical repetition of a concentrative effort (e.g. staring at an image, chanting a mantra, fixing attention at nosetip). Meditation in early Buddhist texts is dynamic like this. You develop: 1. versatility in terms of the sources of pleasure or ways you can invoke pleasure (such as outlined in Frank's post, points 1-4); 2. steadying that pleasure so that one's body mind can be more consistently supported and nourished and that it doesn't have to be tempted by sensuality; 3. reading and exploring and responding to and developing that pleasure. Learning to recognize and explore wholesome pleasure can, in its own right, deepen pleasure. Responding to that pleasure in a skillful way has the same effect (e.g. responding with enthusiasm and conviction; pacifying the coarser activities so that the subtler aspects of that pleasure can be better savored).

    In the end, these three activities make up activities in the jhana. They also are activities prescribed for satipatthana practice. That is because, of course, the content of jhanas is precisely satipatthana--dynamic, and accompanied by both insight and calm (as opposed to the rampant misnotion that jhana is a purely samatha-calm exercise).

    ReplyDelete

Post a Comment

Popular posts from this blog

Advice to younger meditators on jhāna, sex, porn, masturbation

Someone asked: Is porn considered harmful sexual.activity? I don't have a sex life because I don't have a partner and I don't wish to engage in casual sex so I use porn to quench the biological urge to orgasm. I can't see that's it's harmful because nobody is being forced into it. The actors are all paid well and claim to enjoy it etc. The only harm I can see is that it's so accessible these days on smart devices and so children may access it but I believe that this is the parents responsibility to not allow unsupervised use of devices etc. Views? Frankk response: In another thread, you asked about pleasant sensations and jhāna.  I'm guessing you're young, so here's some important advice you won't get from suttas   if you're serious about jhāna.  (since monastics are already celibate by rule)   If you want to attain stable and higher jhānas,   celibacy and noble silence to the best of your ability are the feedstock and prerequiste to tha

SN 48.40 Ven. Thanissaro comments on Ven. Sunyo's analysis

This was Ven. Sunyo's analysis of SN 48.40: https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2024/05/exciting-news-honest-ebt-scholars-like.html And here is Ven. Thanissaro's response to that analysis: I think there’s a better way to tackle the issue of SN 48:40 than by appealing to the oldest layers of commentarial literature. That way is to point out that SN 48:40, as we have it, doesn’t pass the test in DN 16 for determining what’s genuine Dhamma and what’s not. There the standard is, not the authority of the person who’s claiming to report the Buddha’s teachings, but whether the teachings he’s reporting are actually in accordance with the principles of the Dhamma that you know. So the simple fact that those who have passed the Buddha’s teachings down to us say that a particular passage is what the Buddha actually taught is not sufficient grounds for accepting it. In the case of the jhānas—the point at issue here— we have to take as our guide the standard formula for the jhānas, a

1min. video: Dalai Lama kissing boy and asking him to suck his tongue

To give more context, this is a public event,  * everyone knows cameras are rolling  *  it's a room full of children * the boy's mom is standing off camera a few feet away watching all of this * the boy initiated contact, he had already had a hug with Dalai Lama earlier and then asked Dalai Lama for another hug which triggered this segment  17 min. video showing what happened before that 1 min. clip and after, with some explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT0qey5Ts78 16min talk from Ajahn Acalo with his thoughts on Dalai Lama kissing boy, relevance to Bhikkhu monastic code, sexual predators in religion in general, and how celibate monastics deal with sexual energy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2m0TcUib0 The child's comments about the incident in a filmed interview later https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2023/04/18/643eba5d46163ffc078b457c.html The child: It's a great experience It was amazing to meet His Holiness and I think it's a great ex