What these 3 suttas have in common, AN 9.36, MN 64, MN 111, is the very interesting feature of explicitly describing doing vipassana, while one is in the jhÄna and the first 3 formless attainments. LBT (late buddhist text) apologists, as well as Sujato, Brahm, claim that the suttas describe a jhÄna where one enters a disembodied, frozen state, where vipassana is impossible until one emerges from that 'jhÄna'. Since Sujato translated all the suttas, let's take a look at what he translated, and how it supports his interpretation of 'jhÄna'. AN 9.36: JhÄnasutta—Bhikkhu Sujato (suttacentral.net) ‘The first absorption is a basis for ending the defilements.’ ‘Paį¹hamampÄhaį¹, bhikkhave, jhÄnaį¹ nissÄya ÄsavÄnaį¹ khayaį¹ vadÄmÄ«’ti, iti kho panetaį¹ vuttaį¹. That’s what I said, but why did I say it? KiƱcetaį¹ paį¹icca vuttaį¹? Take a mendicant who, q uite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskill...
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