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MN 74 kāya, rūpa, arahantship, stream entry in jhāna, STED 11ada

MN 74



Ayaṃ kho panaggivessana, kāyo rūpī cātumahābhūtiko mātāpettikasambhavo odanakummāsūpacayo aniccucchādanaparimaddanabhedanaviddhaṃsanadhammo, aniccato dukkhato rogato gaṇḍato sallato aghato ābādhato parato palokato suññato anattato samanupassitabbo.
Aggivessana, this body is physical. It’s made up of the four primary elements, produced by mother and father, built up from rice and porridge, liable to impermanence, to wearing away and erosion, to breaking up and destruction. You should see it as impermanent, as suffering, as diseased, as an abscess, as a dart, as misery, as an affliction, as alien, as falling apart, as empty, as not-self.
Tassimaṃ kāyaṃ aniccato dukkhato rogato gaṇḍato sallato aghato ābādhato parato palokato suññato anattato samanupassato yo kāyasmiṃ kāyachando kāyasneho kāyanvayatā sā pahīyati.
Doing so, you’ll give up desire, affection, and subservience to the body.

Later in the sutta, Sariputta and Digha attain arahantship and stream entry respectively while listening to this talk.



Tena kho pana samayena āyasmā sāriputto bhagavato piṭṭhito ṭhito hoti bhagavantaṃ bījayamāno.
Now at that time Venerable Sāriputta was standing behind the Buddha fanning him.
Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi:
Then he thought:
“tesaṃ tesaṃ kira no bhagavā dhammānaṃ abhiññā pahānamāha, tesaṃ tesaṃ kira no sugato dhammānaṃ abhiññā paṭinissaggamāhā”ti.
“It seems the Buddha speaks of giving up and letting go all these things through direct knowledge.”
Iti hidaṃ āyasmato sāriputtassa paṭisañcikkhato anupādāya āsavehi cittaṃ vimucci.
Reflecting like this, Venerable Sāriputta’s mind was freed from the defilements by not grasping.
Dīghanakhassa pana paribbājakassa virajaṃ vītamalaṃ dhammacakkhuṃ udapādi:
And the stainless, immaculate vision of the Dhamma arose in the wanderer Dīghanakha:

Jhāna is not explicitly stated in this sutta, but if you search for the 11 insights in all the suttas, especially AN 9.36,  it explains you do it while you're in jhana, or the first 7 perception samadhi attainments. (i.e. you don't 'emerge' from a frozen VRJ vism. redefinition of jhana).

Unless you want to posit a path to arahantship without requiring any of the 4 jhanas, this sutta is saying you can hear sounds, think about teachings, and attain stream entry, up to arahantship while in the four jhanas.

Also, you can see the relationship between kāya (physical body) and rupa (visible form that can experience tactile sensations) highlighted in the first passage. If jhana were of the VRJ (vism. redefinition) variety, Sariputta would not be able to hear, think, etc, and attain arahantship the way this sutta describes.


STED 11ada


aniccato dukkhato rogato gaṇḍato sallato aghato ābādhato parato palokato suññato anattato samanupassitabbo.


basically this is anicca, dukkha, anatta, the famous 3 signs expanded to a list of 11. A separate article coming soon will survey all the suttas that include these 11.

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