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Diṭṭhaṃ sutaṃ mutaṃ viññātaṃ pattaṃ pariyesitaṃ anuvicaritaṃ manasā...

Good question asked on dhammawheel,
thinking about what is 'seen, heard, felt, smelled, cognized...'


Diṭṭhaṃ sutaṃ mutaṃ viññātaṃ pattaṃ pariyesitaṃ anuvicaritaṃ manasā...

Post by DooDoot » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:12 am
Dear Pali forum

Many many suttas (such as AN 8.68 & AN 4.24) include some or all of the following terms: "diṭṭhaṃ sutaṃ mutaṃ viññātaṃ pattaṃ pariyesitaṃ anuvicaritaṃ manasā".

An old thread here discussed these terms in the Upanishads. Note: there appears to be the usual tendency to give chronological primacy to the Upanishads however these terms might probably be found far more numerously in the Pali suttas.

Without having done extensive research, I sense these terms refer to a 'mental or spiritual' cognition (rather than merely a 'physical' cognition) given the word 'manasā' is found above in AN 4.24 & appears to be in the instrumental or, otherwise, ablative case. Thus, it appears the mind (manasā) is performing the seeing, hearing, sensing, etc.

For example, something can be mentally heard & remembered, such as a teaching or conversation; as opposed to merely physically hearing something insignificant with the physical sense organ, such as a bird singing or the wind blowing.

Are there any explanations of these terms in the suttas, Abhidhamma or Commentaries?

Otherwise, please discuss.

Thank you :smile:




Post by Dhammanando » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:22 pm
DooDoot wrote: 
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:12 am
Are there any explanations of these terms in the suttas, Abhidhamma or Commentaries?
Below are the defns. given by Buddhaghosa in his commentary to the AN's Lokasutta and the MN's Alagaddūpamasutta. As nearly identical ones are are given by Dhammapāla in his commentary to the Itivuttaka and Nettippakaraṇa and by Mahānāma in his commentary to the Paṭisambhidāmagga, it would seem that the meaning of the terms was a quite uncontroversial matter among the Theravadins.
Tattha:
Diṭṭhan ti rūpāyatanaṃ.
Sutan ti saddāyatanaṃ.
Mutan ti patvā gahetabbato gandhāyatanaṃ rasāyatanaṃ phoṭṭhabbāyatanaṃ.
Viññātan ti sukhadukkhādi dhammārammaṇaṃ.
Pattan ti pariyesitvā vā apariyesitvā vā pattaṃ.
Pariyesitan ti pattaṃ vā appattaṃ vā pariyesitaṃ.
Anuvicaritaṃ manasā ti cittena anusañcaritaṃ.


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