Skip to main content

SN 36.31 three kinds of liberations (vimokkha), unclear in all existing translations

Most of this sutta is straightforward and clear in meaning, 

fitting cleanly into the matrix.

but the last part on vimokkha breaks the pattern of having 3 types corresponding exactly to:

1) carnal (sa-misa) = ignorant worldling indulges in 5 cords of sensual pleasure

2) non-carnal (nira-misa) = a disciple of Buddha  practicing one of the 4 jhānas

3) even better than non-carnal = an arahant reviewing their mind free of defilements.


I post the translations of Thanissaro, Bodhi, and Sujato here for reference, as I set to make a translation of SN 36.31 that's completely clear and explicit in meaning.

None of these existing translations make sense to me, aside from the 3rd category of an arahant.

The first two types don't follow the matrix from the rest of the sutta, and Tv commentary adds nothing of note to help make sense of it.


B. Thanissaro has

https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN36_31.html

“And what is liberation of the flesh? Liberation associated with form is of the flesh. What is liberation not of the flesh? Liberation associated with the formless is not of the flesh.

“And what is the liberation more not-of-the-flesh than that not of the flesh? Whatever liberation arises in an effluent-ended monk as he is reflecting on his mind released from passion, reflecting on his mind released from aversion, reflecting on his mind released from delusion, that is called liberation more not-of-the-flesh than that not of the flesh.”



B. Bodhi has


“And what, bhikkhus, is carnal deliverance?
Deliverance connected with the form sphere is carnal deliverance.

“And what, bhikkhus, is spiritual deliverance?
Deliverance connected with the formless sphere is spiritual deliverance.
261 “And what, bhikkhus, is deliverance more spiritual than the spiritual?
When a bhikkhu whose taints are destroyed reviews his mind liberated from lust, liberated from hatred, liberated from delusion, there arises deliverance.
This is called deliverance more spiritual than the spiritual.”


footnote 261:

261 Having called the rapture, etc.
, of the jhānas spiritual (lit.
“noncarnal”) rapture, etc.
, it seems contradictory for the text to say that the form-sphere deliverance is carnal.
Spk explains that form-sphere deliverance is called carnal because its object is a carnal form (rūpāmisavasen’eva sāmiso nāma).


SN 36.31: Nirāmisasutta—Bhikkhu Sujato (suttacentral.net)


And what is liberation of the flesh?Katamo ca, bhikkhave, sāmiso vimokkho?Liberation connected with form is liberation of the flesh.Rūpappaṭisaṁyutto vimokkho sāmiso vimokkho.

And what is liberation not of the flesh?Katamo ca, bhikkhave, nirāmiso vimokkho?Liberation connected with the formless is liberation not of the flesh.Arūpappaṭisaṁyutto vimokkho nirāmiso vimokkho.

And what is liberation even more spiritual than that not of the flesh?Katamo ca, bhikkhave, nirāmisā nirāmisataro vimokkho?When a mendicant who has ended the defilements reviews their mind free from greed, hate, and delusion, liberation arises. This is called liberation even more spiritual than that not of the flesh.”Yo kho, bhikkhave, khīṇāsavassa bhikkhuno rāgā cittaṁ vimuttaṁ paccavekkhato, dosā cittaṁ vimuttaṁ paccavekkhato, mohā cittaṁ vimuttaṁ paccavekkhato uppajjati vimokkho, ayaṁ vuccati, bhikkhave, nirāmisā nirāmisataro vimokkho”ti.




Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Lucid24.org: What's new?

Link to lucid24.org home page :    4👑☸   Remember, you may have to click the refresh button on your web browser navigation bar at to get updated website. 2026 1-30 Overhauled the DN, MN, SN menu pages - Supreme navigation January 30, 2026 2025 12-16 2025-12 December: Major update on look and feel of Lucid24.org 2024 9-17 Lots of new stuff in the last 2 and a half years.  Too many to list. Main one justifying new blog entry, is redesign of home page. Before, it was designed to please me, super dense with everything in one master control panel. I've redesigned it to be friendly to newbies and everyone really. Clear structure, more use of space.  At someone's request, I added a lucid24.org google site search at top of home page. 2022 4-14 Major update to lucid24.org, easy navigation of suttas, quicklink: the ramifications 4-2 new feature lucid24.org sutta quick link 3-28 A new translation of SN 38.16, and first jhāna is a lot easier than you think 🔗📝notes relat...

AN 9.36, MN 64, MN 111: How does Ajahn Brahm and Sujato's "Jhāna" work here?

What these 3 suttas have in common, AN 9.36, MN 64, MN 111, is the very interesting feature of explicitly describing doing vipassana, while one is in the jhāna and the first 3 formless attainments. LBT (late buddhist text) apologists, as well as Sujato, Brahm, claim that the suttas describe a jhāna where one enters a disembodied, frozen state, where vipassana is impossible until one emerges from that 'jhāna'.  Since Sujato translated all the suttas, let's take a look at what he translated, and how it supports his interpretation of 'jhāna'.  AN 9.36: Jhānasutta—Bhikkhu Sujato (suttacentral.net) ‘The first absorption is a basis for ending the defilements.’ ‘Paṭhamampāhaṁ,   bhikkhave,   jhānaṁ   nissāya   āsavānaṁ   khayaṁ   vadāmī’ti,   iti   kho   panetaṁ   vuttaṁ. That’s what I said, but why did I say it? Kiñcetaṁ   paṭicca   vuttaṁ? Take a mendicant who, q uite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskill...

My thoughts on Dalai Lama kissing boy, and the solution

HHDL = His holiness, the Dalai Lama I've collected good references here, including the actual video, and snippets from forums discussions containing valid critcism and explanations of cultural context, and most importantly, what the rules of the actual vinaya that buddhist monks are supposed to follow: 1min. video: Dalai Lama kissing boy and asking him to suck his tongue At the time of this writing, HHDL is about 88 years old. He has an exemplary record devoting his life to compassionate service to all living beings,  as a Tibetan Buddhist monk. In this age of 'me too',  everyone with a cell phone with high resolution cameras, and the ability to quickly publicize any indiscretion or sexual crime, we've seen sexual predators in positions of power being exposed and convicted. Leaders of large corporations,  governments, professional sports, doctors, leaders in all religions. Tibetan Buddhism has an especially poor track record with corrupt sexual predators. https://thewal...